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I don't believe that a Planck volume is the smallest form of energy. I do believe our universe is composed of millions of smaller wave particles that travel forward or reverse in x,y,z stepped directions. I also believe that time is linear and the three dimensions of movement are fashioned by grouping x,y,z components --to move forward add or subtract a step from one of the x,y,z component groups. As steps along the chain move one step into the future they vibrate the string except if they travel in-line and this constricts the change in shape of the path leading to mass and gravity at the same time. Of course the chain path must have a very large but descrete length to make a universe and this path has to be recycled each point one step to the future. In this way the universe will have quantum consistency, interconnectivness, predictability and choice of movement as in a many world concept. The arrow of time occurs when a step is chronologically moved all the other steps along the time-line are fixed -- this means that that step can close a gap between its closest partner and when the partner has his time to move he will have to move forward away into the most possible x,y,z spaces between his closest partners that are fixed in place at that time. This is also the reason for momentum.

[cosvis]

Hi Pat and all,
The weather is beautiful during the day but a bit cool at night, here, down under. You mentioned that "photos however have no mass and therefore no g". Photons do not have relativity mass, but they must have some form of mass which can be called non-relativistic mass. Einstein showed that light coming from distant stars are gravitationally affected by the gravitational force of the sun. Also, the photo electro effect forces electrons in an atom out of its orbit. Einstein also sowed that when a relative-mass object increases its velocity it also increases its relativistic mass. I think the increase of the relativistic mass comes from the increase of energy which is basically quantum energy, and therefore energy must have some kind of mass, which can be called non-relativistic mass, or dark mass.
Yours cosvis.

[cosvis]

Hi Pat and all.
I thing Pat we should not mix up religion and science. In religion we believe that God is the creator of everything and he creates out of nothing. However, God exisists in its own dimension of eternity, and thus his creative act is an eternal act; he acts from eternity. This eternal act is reflected in the natural world or nature, in so far as energy is eternal, it can not be created or distroyed. Our understanding of time, or the beginning of time, began when energy was transformed into relativistic matter. Thus Einstein discovered the fourth dimension of matter including the fourth or the time dimension. I also think that Einstein discovered the fifth dimension or the quantum dimension, where time is zero, which is in fact eternal time. To me there is no conflict between religion and science. They are different aspect of the same reality, they complement and not contradict each other. I rather keep this forum scientific and not get it mixed up with religion.
Yours cosvis.

[cosvis]

Hi Pat and all.
You seem to be a follower of the Big Bang Theory, like most scientist today. As I said before I do not believe in the Big Bank Theory and I like to share with you some of the difficulties I have with the theory. The microwave background radiation is the cosmic background radiation discovered in 1965 and it is believed to have eminated from the primordial fireball of the big bang with which the universe is thought to have originated. At its beginning of its radiation it was very hot and over the billions of years as the universe expanded it suppose to have cooled to its present temperature. I have never heard it said that since 1965 its temperature has cooled further or heated up any further. Either the cosmic microwave radiation was not caused by the Big Bang or the universe is not expanding nor contracting, in other words, the universe must be constant. I rather believe that the cosmic microwave radiation is the cosmic temperature of the universe that is a black hole and thus constant. I have some other difficulties with the Big Bang theory which I will share with you later.
yours cosvis.

[labelwench]

Hi Pat and all.
I thing Pat we should not mix up religion and science. In religion we believe that God is the creator of everything and he creates out of nothing. However, God exisists in its own dimension of eternity, and thus his creative act is an eternal act; he acts from eternity. This eternal act is reflected in the natural world or nature, in so far as energy is eternal, it can not be created or distroyed. Our understanding of time, or the beginning of time, began when energy was transformed into relativistic matter. Thus Einstein discovered the fourth dimension of matter including the fourth or the time dimension. I also think that Einstein discovered the fifth dimension or the quantum dimension, where time is zero, which is in fact eternal time. To me there is no conflict between religion and science. They are different aspect of the same reality, they complement and not contradict each other. I rather keep this forum scientific and not get it mixed up with religion.
Yours cosvis.

The 'politics' and dogma of many organized religions do not inspire me, yet in the matter of 'spirituality' and our 'connectedness' with all things at the most fundamental level, I agree that science and spirit should be allies rather than adversaries.

[cosvis]

Hi spacedout and all.
As far as I know the quantum particle is the smalllest particle of energy; it is the plank constant and is one of the fundamental constant of the universe. E = h v. E stands for energy, h stands for a planck constant and v stands for the frequency or the number of planck or quantum particle in a photon. To my understanding the quantum or planck particle is the smallest possible particle and all matter, forces and energies are composed of quanta particles. I agree with you that realtivistic time is linear but Einstein also showed that relativistic time comes to zero when the particle travels at the speed of light. To my understanding only light or photons, or quntua particles can travel at the speed of light and therefore I think, they exist in a special dimension, the fifth dimension where time is zero.
Yours cosvis.

[spacedout]

Yes, a Planck is the smallest known measurement of space -- or volume. However, if my concept is correct and the aether is composed of a time-line relocating by quantum steps of energy, time and distance all in one step in one of the 3 directions, Then there couldn't be any diagonal movement -- to get diagonal movement it is possible to relate to x,y,z choices of movement -- sence segments of chains propagating as a wave will cross, the the energy in the wave is divided between rows of chains = steps/chain -- in this case it can be related to the formula for distance S = (x^2 = y^2 + z^2)1/2. This makes a crossed chain wave particle that can travel in any direction with a speed of p^2 the number of steps in chain segment of a ccwp.

If the above is true than a Planck volume would contain 1^2, 2^2, 3^2, 4^2 --- n^2 number of stepped crossed chain wave particles to give x,y,z components for a diagonal. This means there would be many wavelets in a Planck volume to give the diagnal travel of light that we see. Some of the wavelets will travel faster than the speed of light while larger ones will travel slower than the speed of light. The faster ccwp could be the pilot waves in the interference directing light to the bulls eye pattern on a screen.

Also, this would mean there are only two particles that make up all matter -- one would be a vacuum ccwp and the other a pressure ccwp. These two ccwp's would occur by chance in space as random vibrations of the time-line chain segments vibrate in unison to cause wave propagation. When this happens by chance a pressure wave is formed and also a vacuum wave will move away in the opposite direction as ambient aether chains fall into the void (fewer chain segment/unit space) and the void is the ccwp. The relitive mass in both cases is caused by eliminating possible choices of x,y,z stepped movent leaving a predominance of inline identity step movement. This reduces change in the shape of the time-line path and is a retardent o movement (mass). In the case of vacuum ccwp's stretched chains slow changes in the path of the time-line while compaction also slows changes of the shape of the time-line path. Both vacuum and pressure ccwp's should have the same mass as they are constructed from freeer chains in ambient space.

A big crunch and a big bang are part of this concept as one step at a time occurs along the time-line and a step closer to a partner in the time-line forces it to move away. the process causes inertia and the expansion of the big bang and when the looped path of the time-line is expanded to its limits it will move into a retraction or big crunch followed by the blocking step pattern as in the big bang (inertia).

[cosvis]

Hi spacedout and all,
You said above that ...."a plank volume would contain ....number of stepped crossed chain wave particles...". What are these "chain wave particles"? Are they particles of energies? To my understanding the "quantum particle" is the smalllest possible particle of energy or a planck particle consisting of a graviton moving at the speed of light. This quantum particle has both equal and opposite gravitational and kinetical energies. Because it moves at the speed of light, it formes its own dimension (fifth dimension) where the time factor is zero. Thus, its movement or the movement of a quantum particle observed from our fourth dimension, could be seen as if it moves faster than the speed of light. Please explain your theory further.
Yours cosvis.

[cosvis]

Hi labelwench and all,
I am glad you think that science and spirit should be allies rather than adversaries. We know what science is and we try to get a better understanding of science by the scientific method of observation, scientific laws and mathematical formula. The spirit is also part of reality, the spirit of trth, of goodness and of love etc. Just us we can investigate science so we can investigate the reality of the spirit; may be not by means of the scientific method but by means of observation, logical laws, inspirations and revelation. I feel we should keep the two fields of investigations separate otherways we can easily have misunderstandings and confusions.
Yours cosvis.

[cosvis]

Hi Pat and all,
I just wanted to add something concerning your statement that photons have no mass and therefore have no gravity. As I tried to say ealier, photons are definitely affected by gravity as Einstein had predicted and it was proven to be correct. Photons do not have relativity Mass or rest mass, but I tried to suggest that they have non-relativity mass which I think could be the dark matter every body is talking about today. The whole universe is filled with photons or electro-magnetic radiation coming from stars, or it could even be microwave radiation coming from heated bodies; whatever consists of quanta particles can be regarded as dark matter including electro-magnetic forces, the nuclear force and even the weak nuclear force. I am even inclined to believe that quanta particles are gravitons moving at the speed of light. This could give an explanation for the dark matter and it give an explanation of the absence of about 90 percent matter in the universe. Since the quanta particles operate in a different dimension, the fifth dimension, its mass is not directly measureable from our fourth dimensional universe.
Yours cosvis.