Rotating Wave Theory of the Electron

[AntonioLao]

On the contrary at greater radius, the Bohr quantization of angular momentum allows energy absorption while the ground state of minimum smaller radius gives emission of radiation at the speed of light c. Clearly, your assertion is just the opposite of what is happening during a quantum jumps of the rotating electron between energy levels. Regardless, your model still needs to calculate the same energy differences between quantum jumps in order to be accepted as an opposing theory. The quantum jumps already been proved correct by the working principle of LASER.

[William Christie]

On the contrary at greater radius, the Bohr quantization of angular momentum allows energy absorption while the ground state of minimum smaller radius gives emission of radiation at the speed of light c. Clearly, your assertion is just the opposite of what is happening during a quantum jumps of the rotating electron between energy levels. Regardless, your model still needs to calculate the same energy differences between quantum jumps in order to be accepted as an opposing theory. The quantum jumps already been proved correct by the working principle of LASER.

You are now talking about the electron orbit energy jumps. Before we were talking strictly about the electron wave rotation. Whether or not the rotational velocity at different radii changes was the question. Regardless, the angular frequency will still be the same and thus it appears to agree with QM.

[PoPpAScience]

Hi William. I'm seeing if my Iphone will allow me to post since Robert did his last upgrade, it wouldn't before. I'm keeping track of your thread from the road on my Iphone. I enjoyed reading your theory from your link. Glad to see your enjoying this forum.

Later, Allen.

Ps.. It worked and let me edit, great!

[Bogie]

I agree with you. Space is a framework. Without anything in it there is nothing there; just the conceptual framework.

Perhaps there are an infinite number of strata of mediums and we are just learning about the "aether" one in which we can see transmits light and has these anomolies called particles. This can lead to heady stuff in philosophy such as ever long ago evolution has been at work and space is ultimately composed of infinite number of infinitesimal aether particles with infinite number of strata (solid but empty; something other than nothing or something). We might be interconnected much more than we think. Pi is amazing like Euler's equation and it seems to be part of the framework. How did this framework ever come to be?

If you want my opinion the possibilities are endless. I sometimes have to remind myself of the difference between contemplating things that might be necessary to make what we can see happen vs. imagining other heady things that might be possible as well, though I am quite capable of imagining heady environments.

To me the rotating wave simply rotates about an axis and thus becomes a standing wave. Before I thought about the rotating wave, I drew up waves bouncing back and forth and got the same length contraction. I knew it had to be localized and either some kind of shell would bounce reverberate the waves or waves going out would need to be balanced with waves coming in. However, that all seemed complicated like that of Lorentz's charged particle concept and I didn't see how it could be real. When I recalled that electrons had been assigned a spin angular momentum, then I hit upon the idea of the rotating wave. Everything seemed to fall into place then. Believe me I checked everywhere to see if anyone else had ever thought of that idea before. I showed it to a prof in relativistic quantum mechanics and he thought it was "neat". Some graduate students wanted to publish it in the Physics Society Journal, but it was turned down at the last minute by the departmental head. The special theory part is pretty much the same as that submission which I have kept. That was all back in the 80's.

That is a great story and thanks for sharing it. I consider it a goal of mine to be able to think of something interesting cosmologically or philosophically and if I ever do it will probably be on my Quantum Wave Cosmology thread .

I will keep an open mind to other ideas on how a standing wave might be defined. It would be good to learn from others and the criticism certainly requires response that sharpens and increases one skills. The fact that the rotation inherently explains relativity and gravity makes the model simple. Space and time are connected through that rotation.

Obviously, I will need to study Lie Groups, spinors, QED, Feynman, etc. to clearly relate the rotating wave to 'modern' physics. In the simple special theory, the revelations were wonderful. As much as the hurdle seems too high, I suspect that the math will reveal more correlation.

We took a fork in the road. In 1887 we could not detect the aether, but Lorentz had the math. Later Einstein said time and space must be connected, but left out room for aether to explain action at a distance. Later De Broglie suggests wave-particle duality. What if De Broglie had come before Lorentz?

Just imagine when you get up to walk around. You are transmitting yourself through space. Many people I talk to daily don't really want to talk like this. Just imagine that while we are alive, we can talk about it.

I can imagine that. Certainly there is a connection between mind and motion that is just as non-algorithmic as a connection between space and time might be algorithmic? Basically I’m saying that I’m not a fan of determinism but I suspect that some things might be deterministic. I'm one who believes that consciousness is non-algorithic .

I really appreciate your discussion and this forum.

Great. I’m motivated to participate here by the possibilities that these discussions have to help with an understanding of nature, not just the physical aspects but philosophical aspects too.

[AntonioLao]

You are now talking about the electron orbit energy jumps

The total orbital angular momentum is simply the vector sum of the intrinsic angular momentum (spin of rotating electron) of the electron as indicated by spectral multiplicity called the anomalous Zeeman effect. In QM increasing principal quantum number representing the orbital angular momentum implies longer radius for the excited states of the energy levels. To excite the electron into higher energy and longer radius external energy is absorbed whiile a return to the ground state does the electron radates its energies at speed c.

Since the electron is for all practical purposes a point particle talking about its radius is a moot point. But its energy absorption and emission is the only physical indication that the electron is rotating and the only means for experimental verifications.

[William Christie]

Just for fun, you can also see a video on the Rotating Wave in motion at: http://wbabin.net/ under Oct. 8, 2010: Video: Electron as Wave.

It is wmv file about 1.8mb.

[Bogie]

Great video representation and I see you have submitted your paper to the journal along with the video. Every time I read it more of it sinks in. Very interesting concept.

[William Christie]

The total orbital angular momentum is simply the vector sum of the intrinsic angular momentum (spin of rotating electron) of the electron as indicated by spectral multiplicity called the anomalous Zeeman effect. In QM increasing principal quantum number representing the orbital angular momentum implies longer radius for the excited states of the energy levels. To excite the electron into higher energy and longer radius external energy is absorbed whiile a return to the ground state does the electron radates its energies at speed c.

Clearly the orbital angular momentum is just the orbital momentum of the electron going around the nucleus. The spin angular momentum of the electron is just the spin. The electron has a spin and and an orbit and the electron's total angular momentum is thus the vector sum of the orbital and spin momenta. The number of rotations of spin are quantized (N) with the orbit in order to stabilize.

Again, I distinguish spin radii from orbital radii.

Since the electron is for all practical purposes a point particle talking about its radius is a moot point. But its energy absorption and emission is the only physical indication that the electron is rotating and the only means for experimental verifications.

Well of course to me, the electron is not a point particle because it is a rotating wave which explains QM (by synchronization with orbit and spin plus that of the nucleus) and Relativity (planar wave front must always be at right angles to the direction of its motion). Its energy absorption and emission must depend on both its orbit and spin.

See 10. An Explanation of Quantum Mechanics in my theory. I discussed quantization, wave probability distribution, derivative operators, and momenta and related the rotating wave to QM. It's been some time since I researched and wrote that, but I was careful to make sure it accurately related to QM. Basically, the rotating wave appears to unify quantum mechanics with relativity. I am starting to go through an overview of modern physics (in hopes to relate Superstrings and M Theory to the rotating wave), but any differences between QM and the rotating wave will need to be explained and require more in depth research in that area.

I am now beyond saying that if the rotating wave is wrong, then I would be glad to put the wavicle to rest. Regardless, I want to get a good grasp on all the current theory and see how the rotating wave fits in. It helps me to intuitively understand and demands a profound understanding of other theories when comparing.

[William Christie]

Great video representation and I see you have submitted your paper to the journal along with the video. Every time I read it more of it sinks in. Very interesting concept.

Thanks, Bogie.
I would love to show it going around the nucleus and show somehow the wave fronts further extending perhaps with dashed lines. Per QM, there would be N quantized spins for each orbit. I did this with Autocad and mounted the camera on a helical path so what you see is really the camera spiralling around and past the Wavicle. Note the shortened length (contraction) and compaction of inclined wave fronts (mass increase). Also note the polar cones out the front and back which creates the induced magnetic field.

I am doing pretty much all my forum talk here because I only have so much time. They put it up there and I appreciate it. There are some interesting papers there which are also related to the ether.

[AntonioLao]

The g-factor of the magnetic dipole moment of the rotating electron was calculated using Dirac equation to be exactly 2. The experimental value was determined to be 2.0011614. The difference is merely .0011614. The value calculated by QED by extending to multiple Feynman loops diagram has a standard deviation error of 1 in a billionth. Comparing Dirac's value and QED's value clearly QED's is more plausible. In 1989, Hans G. Dehmelt shared the Nobel Prize for Physics for his verification of the QED's value of the g-factor of the rotating electron. Somehow if your theory can provide a more accurate value than Dehmelt then you will be awarded the next Nobel Prize for Physics.