ToE - The alleviation of suffering.

[SB_UK]

ToE - The alleviation of suffering.

No further words are required.

It's our everything - our Everything Theory - our only interest.

The ability to grasp the meaning of this idea and to (in time) transcend suffering.

[austintorn@aol.com]

ToE - The alleviation of suffering.

No further words are required.

It's our everything - our Everything Theory - our only interest.

The ability to grasp the meaning of this idea and to (in time) transcend suffering.

Good to see you back.

[SB_UK]

Words don't come as easily as they once did; everything's resolved down ... ... ...

[austintorn@aol.com]

everything's resolved down ... ... ...

Down, down!
To the fathoms of the cryptic;
Where substance slept with arithmetic,
Toward the spark yet nursed by embers,
To the first and last the universe remembers—
To seek the gem that shines—
The wealth of mines,
The jewels so treasured by thee and thine.

[mkirkpatrick]

The understanding of the TOE will not alleviate suffering in the short term,in the long term maybe.

Inner alignment with natural law and being in a positive mind set plus living in the ever present now will also help to ease pain.


regards michael.

[melanie]

It's good to see you again SB_UK

Happy Days.

[SB_UK]

Hey ... ...

[SB_UK]

The understanding of the TOE will not alleviate suffering in the short term,in the long term maybe.
Inner alignment with natural law and being in a positive mind set plus living in the ever present now will also help to ease pain.
regards michael.

Not really interested in using words cryptically.

Any such messages are difficult for people to understand.

The alleviation of suffering is an ancient message.

ToE (Tao) is a way.

Understand ToE and the attachments to the material world which ancient texts describe as being the root of suffering dissipate.

Why ?

Because a rational understanding of the evolutionary process shifts us from being material world organisms (like the animal which truly believes it lives in the material world, and has no capacity for a more abstract world view) to 'Inner world' organisms (Stabile - to complete the descent into an internal model of reality) who understand that our entire perception of reality is fabricated; the transfer from an entirely material world view (the animal, child and pre-wisdom adult) to an entirely abstract (non-material) (the wise adult) world view.

With acceptance of an entirely abstract world view, the individual spontaneously loses his/her previously innate attachment to material acquisition (to material world pleasures).

So ... ... a mind which can understand ToE, is a mind which has grown up, is a mind which has made the transition from entirely material world view to entirely abstract world view (understands the abstraction of mind) - and which consequently has lost the attachment to the material world (material world desires) which the ancient text correctly states is the root of that individual's (human) suffering.

Solely to add that the transition in mind (from pre-wisdom to wisdom) results concomitantly with the individual experiencing a change in internal dopaminergic reward system
- a change which (unsurprisingly) shifts from reward (satisfying dopaminergic circuit firing) from material world pleasures (consumerism, workaholism ~etc~) to a reward system which is activated when the individual performs a useful social function.

In the case of any individual who is lucky enough to have alleviated their own suffering (on this, the highest of levels), the individual is then compelled (by the change in their own mind which has occurred, and in the change in their reward system which has been applied) to work towards the alleviation of suffering (physical, mental and spiritual) in all other people.

In the first instance, all that is required is a shift in global policy which makes vegetables and sufficient shelter a birth-right for all global citizens; these are physiological necessities and their availability to all people will combat the major physical and mental stress which people feel (and hence which leads to suffering), around the world.

I'd suggest that the best way to ensure that that policy is transacted, would be to set up an infrastructure in which people are taught, and thereafter are required to 'do' for themselves.

Self-builds and Co-operative farming ventures.

I'd like to think that the amount of time and effort required to perform these chores would be minimal - though even if not, enjoyable also.

So in conclusion, ToE permits the alleviation of suffering (spiritual) in the individual and pushes the individual to work towards the alleviation of suffering (by changing social infrastructure) for all people (on mental, physical and spiritual planes), whilst people make their own individual journey towards grasping the ToE (and making their own spiritual transition).

Unfortunately words like

in the short term,in the long term

aren't useful, because, and simply, what are people meant to take away from them; we need actual time-frames, since with an eternal space:time matrix, a 14 billion year old Universe and a 4 billion year old planet - what do the terms 'short' and 'long' term mean ?

I'm suggesting that (and very simply) that there's a transition in mind which is necessary in order to grasp the ToE (the evolutionary method and its relationship to interconnectiveness) and that this change results in a change in reward mechanisms from a materialistic reward mechanism to a social reward mechanism.
Any individuals lucky enough to have achieved this transition (alleviation in suffering - a shift onto the spiritual plane) are then required to work towards the alleviation of suffering (on the physical, mental and spiritual planes) in all people.

As social infrastructure changes, the suffering of children who have not yet made the transition to wisdom (time and education are required) will be diminished (on the mental and physical planes).

However, the child will not achieve an alleviation in suffering (and arrive on the spiritual plane) until they, themselves make the transition.

And of course, even after the individual has experienced a transition to wisdom (an alleviation in personal suffering and arrival on the spiritual plane) - as long as there's external suffering (the suffering of ~eg~ children to political dictatorships, corrupt regimes) - it would be correct to state that those individuals who've achieved an alleviation of personal suffering (through arrival on the spiritual plane) - will continue to suffer; moreso - the individual who has completed the transition to wisdom (an alleviation in personal suffering through arrival on the spiritual plane) can still be made to suffer through physical (eg imprisonment) and mental (eg listening to 'incorrect speech') abuse.

Inner alignment with natural law and being in a positive mind set plus living in the ever present now will also help to ease pain.

So - I think I can make this sentence work, if it can be interpreted as follows.
The individual who makes the transition to wisdom, and therefore an alleviation of suffering on a personal level (spiritual), as long as s/he can avoid external forces which can force his/her own suffering (on a physical or mental level) - will be motivated to work towards the physical and mental alleviation of suffering in all of those other people, making their way towards the alleviation of suffering (on an individual, spiritual level).

[Drifter]

Not really interested in using words cryptically.

Any such messages are difficult for people to understand.

The alleviation of suffering is an ancient message.

ToE (Tao) is a way.

Understand ToE and the attachments to the material world which ancient texts describe as being the root of suffering dissipate.

Why ?

Because a rational understanding of the evolutionary process shifts us from being material world organisms (like the animal which truly believes it lives in the material world, and has no capacity for a more abstract world view) to 'Inner world' organisms (Stabile - to complete the descent into an internal model of reality) who understand that our entire perception of reality is fabricated; the transfer from an entirely material world view (the animal, child and pre-wisdom adult) to an entirely abstract (non-material) (the wise adult) world view.

With acceptance of an entirely abstract world view, the individual spontaneously loses his/her previously innate attachment to material acquisition (to material world pleasures).

So ... ... a mind which can understand ToE, is a mind which has grown up, is a mind which has made the transition from entirely material world view to entirely abstract world view (understands the abstraction of mind) - and which consequently has lost the attachment to the material world (material world desires) which the ancient text correctly states is the root of that individual's (human) suffering.

Solely to add that the transition in mind (from pre-wisdom to wisdom) results concomitantly with the individual experiencing a change in internal dopaminergic reward system
- a change which (unsurprisingly) shifts from reward (satisfying dopaminergic circuit firing) from material world pleasures (consumerism, workaholism ~etc~) to a reward system which is activated when the individual performs a useful social function.

In the case of any individual who is lucky enough to have alleviated their own suffering, the individual is then compelled (by the change in their own mind which has occurred, and in the change in their reward system which has been applied) to work towards the alleviation of suffering in all other people.

In the first instance, all that is required is a shift in global policy which makes vegetables and sufficient shelter a birth-right for all global citizens.

I'd suggest that the best way to ensure that policy is transacted, would be to set up an infrastructure in which people are taught, and thereafter are required to do for themselves.

Self-builds and Co-operative farming ventures.

I'd like to think that the amount of time and effort required to perform these chores would be minimal - though even if not, enjoyable also.

So in conclusion, ToE permits the alleviation of suffering in the individual and pushes the individual to work towards the alleviation of suffering (by changing social infrastructure) for all people, whilst they make their own individual journey towards grasping the ToE.

Unfortunately words like and aren't useful, because, and simply, what are people meant to take away from them.
Once again, this sentence is too difficult to understand.

I'm suggesting that (and very simply) there's a transition in mind which is necessary in order to grasp the ToE (the evolutionary method and its relationship to interconnectiveness) and that this change results in a change in reward mechanisms from a materialistic reward mechanism to a social reward mechanism.
Any individuals lucky enough to have achieved this transition (alleviation in suffering) are then required to work towards the alleviation of suffering in all people.

As social infrastructure changes, the suffering of children who have not yet made the transition to wisdom (time and education are required) will be diminished.

However they child will not achieve an alleviation in suffering (on a mental/physical plane) until they make the transition.

And of course, even after the individual has experienced a transition to wisdom (an alleviation in personal suffering) - as long as there's external suffering (the suffering of ~eg~ children to political dictatorships, corrupt regimes) - it wouldn't be incorrect to state that those individuals who've achieved an alleviation of personal suffering - will continue to suffer; moreso - the individual who has completed the transition to wisdom (an alleviation in personal suffering) can still be made to suffer through physical (eg imprisonment) and mental (eg listening to 'incorrect speech') abuse.

So - I can make this sentence work, if it can be interpreted as follows.
The individual who makes the transition to wisdom, and therefore an alleviation of suffering on a personal level (spiritual), as long as s/he can avoid external forces which can force his/her own suffering (on a physical or mental level) - will be motivated to work towards the physical and mental alleviation of suffering in all of those other people, making their way towards the alleviation of suffering (on an individual, spiritual level).

Great thread, great posts, welcome home and welcome back.
(Much heartfelt gratitude to the Concourse on High)

May I attain Buddhahood for the benefit of all sentient beings.

This is the root Mahayana aspiration. No one has to take this vow, but the decision to adopt it is a turning point in anyone's practice. It is usually based on the conclusions that we reach after extensive analysis and profound insight into the nature of existence and of our own origins.
Khenpo Karthar, who is the abbot of Karma Triyana Dharmachakra, has said that it is important that we recognize the distinction between feeling loving-kindness to others, acting out of general compassion for others, and this special bodhisattva aspiration. For in taking this vow, we voluntarily give up the pursuit of individual enlightenment except that it may benefit all sentient beings in their quest for enlightenment.
The Bodhisattva Vow

May I assist all sentient beings to attain Buddhahood, and may I be the last one to attain Buddhahood when all sentient beings have attained Buddhahood, as did Avalokiteshvara (Tib. Chenresi) pictured here.

It is not possible to succeed on the Mahayana path without keeping in mind the 64 bodhisattva vows. They are found in Highway for Bodhisattvas (Tib.: Jangchub Shunglam) by Je Tsongkapa (1357-1419) which contains Asanga's root text along with a commentary.

In it are the definition and types of bodhichitta, the types of morality, the types of vows and how bodhisattva vows are taken, an explanation of the eighteen root bodhisattva vows and the forty-six secondary ones; the four factors that cause one to break bodhisattva root vows, how the vows are broken, how they may be lost; how to keep them, how to restore them, and all the benefits of keeping the bodhisattva vows.

May I be a guard for all those who are protector-less,

A guide for those who journey on the road,
For those who wish to go across the water,
May I be a boat, a raft, a bridge.

For all those ailing in the world,
Until their every sickness has been healed,
May I myself become for them
The doctor, nurse, the medicine itself.

~ Shantideva [Holy Spirit]

[Drifter]

True Baptism :http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t004.html

Shaktipat diksha: http://www.siddhashram.org/diksha.shtml