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    Nature Physic. Information.

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    Is there a pattern in nature that can be observed and defined without necessitating mathematics? In other words: Can relevant patterns be discerned in nature that would lead to a fuller understanding of the functioning and processes of the universe..both cosmologically and terrestrial? Would these patterns ( with profound mathematical implications) be discerned purely through the process of observation and spatial cognizance? If these patterns could be perceived and understood in lucid ways ( utilizing: spatial temporal reasoning; thinking in pictures,); would these discoveries lead to a solidified understanding of how INFORMATION can be transferred from one place to another with "seemingly" no constraints( not even the speed of light)? What would this "nature information" reveal as to the human experience as well with regard to how the universe ( and everything within it) functions? Can one gain a deeper understanding, all inclusively, into the sciences ( physics, astronomy, mathematics, etc.) through an awareness of the VISUAL patterns produced throughout all flora and fauna ( and "beyond")? How does one acquire the ability to realize these consistent patterns? After acquiring such spatial information, as demonstrative throughout all creation, will this lead to a more transparent ( reconciliatory) understanding of the universe and all that exists within it? Does the ability to comprehend these relevancies relating to the "exchange of information" as occurant ( and recurrent) ..have something to do with RELATIVITY? It is the purpose of this thread to "show and tell" of these insights. It is the intent of the author to introduce things that can be OBSERVED that are occurring all around us, both in the things perceived ( "mass") and the things unperceived ( "energy"). It is possible to extract solid principles and laws from these discoveries ( observations speaking volumes in and of themselves) and through a consistent application of such "patterns of information" one will discover that these principles and laws are constant and reliable in answering many of the questions in the realm of physics, astronomy, linguistics,... and many more applications.
    It is INFORMATION that is the key to this puzzle we call..."Unification." It is INFORMATION that has been lying dormant within the many ambiguities resulting from “orthodox” scientific methodologies. It is INFORMATION (consistentand predictive) that has been "hiding out" within language systems( as well all flora and fauna) and that has been enshrouded by the ever-evolution of speech syntax, language alphabets ( pictorial, rebus, pictograph). It is INFORMATION that, if comprehended and deciphered ( as existing relative to all animate and inanimate being(s))…speaks on all universal phenomenon and mystery. It is INFORMATION that has been disguised due to so much fanciful theorizing ( though the scientific principles of "theory" are many times effectual).
    We need to magnify our view of all information systems spread throughout the universe. All information received by: The human mind( computer) , ears( sound) , eyes( light photon), nose (aromatic information), mouth ( palatable/unpalatable..information)....originates from "somewhere." This information has been disseminated throughout the universe creating a beautiful and melodious orchestra of knowledge and understanding. The information has many times been relegated due to the imaginations of mankind. This information has been obscured due to a typical over-analyzing( hyper-interpretation of: FUNDEMENTALS). We must be simple and lucid in our approach to trying to realize what “this” information “is” and how it is consistently communicated throughout the universe. We must be determined to allow OBSERVATION to trump fanciful theorizing. We must then take the solid principles that we "see" as patterned throughout all flora and fauna( Extension: Nebula, Galaxy and Universe) and apply them...through experimentation. Only then can we see the brilliance of "the" system . A system that seems designed to send information from one point to another ( and every point in between..as witnessed in nature) so as to allow all entities the ability to communicate and be communicated to.
    This thread will present patterns of information( primarily ..vivid pictures) that when seen and explained relative to the discovery of universal principles and laws,...may begin to unravel many mysteries. This will prove to be delightful and unique approach to understanding the information existing all around us ( both what we see...and that which is extra-dimensional). I encourage all who visit to remain involved in the discussion, ask all the challenging questions and view the images and commentary with an open mind. It may be that unified "theory" has been staring us in the face all along. Indeed! A tightly compacted( and interwoven) plethora of information… stored within every micro/macro space of the perceivable universe. How does one magnify their "relativity" so as to witness these splendid information "bits?" After understanding these "pixels” of information, how then can one arrange them into an organized system of thought and cognizance? We will attempt to discover how to EXACTLY do this ..with the purpose of changing( and challenging) the opaqueness of human thought. This "unorthodox" approach will allow one to , with clarity, view the principles so derived. The result will be more transparency; as an understanding of the modem of operandi of information will become clearer. The “open book”( Idiom: very well known and understood) that is : Information! The “book” as qualitatively unfolded and explained throughout( and relative to ) all “beings” in the universe. I will begin this thread with an image of ..."something":

    What do you think this picture is? What does it look like to you? You may be surprised when we discover what "template" this image was derived from. ( with hundreds upon hundreds of more to follow.) Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	1769 The pattern of information being introduced with this image is discovered everywhere and within/upon everything. The image may or may not be recognizable to those viewing it. However, when explained,the principles to be derrived will stand on their own merits as explanatory.. scientifically. . This is a simple picture but the shape, definition and dimensions store vast amounts of information and link this image with other "very relevant" associations. The associations are not confined to spatial ones rather communicate much more information... if one learns to discern it. The information within this tiny picture ( when applied to science, math, physics and language...among others) really do represent small dots that if placed in relativity to other dots( other 'particles' of information) really do begin to expound on a strange phenomenon that is occurring in nature. Hints: put up your dukes; duck and cover; dusk to dawn; tusk;....

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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    May I first say welcome to the Toequest forum Picturepeculiar,hope you find this forum as enjoyable as I do,your first post and thread is most interesting,the picture you posted said two things to me,one,that it was a seagull wrapped in a sock! And the other was that of the human torso from an odd angle.Most likely both are wrong though.Fractals are a pattern that interests me,what about you?


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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    I think that 'fractals' merely represent the perpetuating of light photon via...Reflection. A fractal may be an expanded or contracted ...representation... of an atom(s) or light photon(s). The size of any given fractal may be determined or contingent upon how far a/an..photon/atom... is from a reflective plane. Or How far a relative observer is from the reflective plane that represents( depicts, copies) the atom(s) upon its surface and through its thickness. Or, argumentively, how far the light photon is from a reflective.. substance..or aether relative to the photon.( Please consider the proceeding pictures and commentary. I will post them gradually. Pictures 1-5 ; as well comentary on picture 1)
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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    The bottom left image(A) represents an atom. The first large square is a reflective medium ( plane or aether) in relativity to the energy and light from A. The quality, sound, speed, energy and light from "A" is communicated to the... plane or aether=Grey matter surface/thickness(B). Due to the reflective and refractive properties of "B" ...A is reflected to plane as well its energy and light ( as well sound) is refracted. This reflection of "A" produces a copy or image of A upon its surface. The "image" that is produced is maintained so long as "A" is relative to the reflective plane or aether. The image produced represents a "mass"(C..of A) representation of the energy, light and sound of A. In this scenario the mass(C) represents part of the gray matter(C of B...of A) within the universe

    A= Light Photon.
    B= Gray matter reflective surface and thickness.( reflective plane or aether ..or atoms as being highly reflective themselves.
    C= ("image" of A)( existing upon and within B)= "mass representation of A.
    ..."mass" emerges due to the relativity of A to B. After A is communicated to B... a perpetual reflecting of A occurs. These perpetual reflections and their relativity to other reflective planes produces all the geometries ( of light) we perceive as ..."mass." Thus:
    "mass" = perpetual reflections of A; producing myriad reflections of A.
    These infinite reflections ( either small or large) at any given point along a line measurement produce geometries that represent the whole or part of the energy, quality, sound and light( of A). All relative observers viewing these conglomerate reflections at perspective degrees(infinite) and from ranging distances(infinite)..will see infinite variety of shape and design. This produces an infinite amount of relativities.
    The 5 frames shown ( copies of A..reflected) represent A as perpetually reflected through space( or representatively and successively reflected from plane to plane by ranging degrees of deviation from parallelism). If we are viewing this 'perpetual reflective scenario' and have no awareness as to the reflective planes communicating these geometries then we will not perceive any separations but will perceive all of the reflections as related to a particular geometry.( i,e..the universe having infinite amounts of mass). If the 5 frames were viewed from different angles, by different observers all would see different geometries form. However all geometries merely represent many reflections in relativity to each other and all reflections are actually equivalent as to shape. Yet when these individual "same" reflections overlap and are observed( through the space of the universe...with no awareness of reflection as occurring) they do not communicate sameness to the eye of the observer. Yet the pattern ( as to shape..being "same") can be discerned within the whole "mass" by observing every point along the surface of the "mass" and seeing and recording how the "true shape" is repeated myriads of times to produce the whole geometry of any given "mass" organism(entity).
    This is an attempt to demonstrate that all "mass" is comprised of reflections of invisible space energy. If this energy ( invisible) undergoes enough reflections of itself relative to reflective planes or an aether..and those planes relative to others ..and undergoes enough of them, from ranging directions and distances...this produces visible "mass"...as being: Perpetual reflections( expansions of A) that accumulate until A becomes B( an emergent reflective geometry of A)(visible)
    This demonstrates that there is fractal "evidence" that the universe is a "hall of mirrors." Whether reflective planes or a reflective aether ...this "reflection scenario"( mirror phenomenon)( substance or plane that reflects light photon into "emergent geometric forms of A) is that which we do not see. The reflected conglomerates of light photon ( accumulation of myriad reflections as occurring throughout the space of the universe..relative to...energy) is that which produces "mass." Thus invisible energy "becomes" visible images and audible sounds that we see , hear and then subsequently interpret to symbol. Does "mass"=Light and energy ...reflected?
    If one atom represents a microscopic fractal ( of a sort..perhaps reflective itself), and if that atom were relative to a reflective medium ( or the atom is reflective and reflects off of other equally reflective atoms) ..then a relative observer who is not aware of these reflective processes ( and cannot see the reflective planes or aether ) would only see the infinite "mass forms" that are reflected of light. These infinite relativities( fractals of information ..the former(s) the same as the latter(s)) would comprise the whole picture ( as interpreted by each perspective relative observer) ..or would comprise the whole of any mass being observed. ( "mass" as reflective images of energy).
    Fractals massing together via reflections of energy and light would expand ( relative to the principles of reflection) to form whole images or representations of progenitor atom(s). Does "mass"= Atoms ( fractals of reflected energy and information) linked to one another via reflection/refraction? In this scenario gravity would merely represent the "force of attraction" of A to ITS infinite reflections. That which holds the mass images to its atomic counterparts.... would be reflection! Necessarily an atom would be always linked(bonded) to its reflection.. so long as it reflects.
    When an atom is reflected ( or highly reflective itself) it represents part of the whole of an emergent "mass" geometry.
    When these atoms( fractals of energy and information) are relative to one another, as well relative to that which reflects them( plane, membrane or aether..or innate to the surface of the atom itself), then the potential for a "mass" to emerge is higher, and contingent upon the relativity of atom to reflective plane or aether. The farther the reflective plane is from the 'energy fractal" the larger the diameter of light ray that is communicated to the plane or through an aether. The closer the fractal is to the reflective plane( or aether) the smaller and more accurate the "reflected mass" is. ( closer to converssion..or singularity with A)
    As the fractal is reflected onto infinite planes and reflected infinite directions and from infinite, perspective distances..this determines the size, shape and volume of information ( B of A. B..either contracted or expanded..of A.. photon information) expanded or contracted to the "mass" forms. However, even when the mass appears ..it is comprised of minuscule parts ( tiny atomic reflections relative to others) of information that accumulatively form the whole of the information as defining the atomic being. thus at any point along the surface of any given mass( or through the thickness of said... mass) it is able to relay information and energy innate to the whole of the reflected atom(s) ( or atoms reflecting off each other). More illustrations and pictures will follow.
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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    Picture 1(former post): The image bottom left(corner) represents a light photon ( or atom). The first square represents the initial reflection of atom onto a reflective plane ( or aether). The 4 succeeding boxes represent the atom subsequently being perpetually reflected. ( as well refracted). A relative observer who is not aware that the atom is being reflected will not be able to perceive the square boxes( reflective plane or aether)..as well will not realize that the image("mass") produced is actually representative of "fractals" that correspond to the energy and information innate to the reflector-atom( perpetual reflections of the same initial image..of atom.). As these "mirror reflections" are infinitely combined they produce perspective "mass" as viewed either whole are in part throughout the visible universe. The relativity of reflections to reflections to reflections(infinite) actually represent "emergent geometries."Mass! ..of atom(s). While The observer concludes that any particular mass is distinguishable from other perspective mass, it is actually a conglomerate of reflections ( of the same thing)..that when whole observed appears to be non fragmented........................................ ..............
    (Note: In this scenario a small mass( for instance: An ant) would be observed as separate from another mass( For instance: A tree)..yet they are both representative of "parts" of the whole of a reflected system of "things." The ant may be a small "fractal" in the whole system of fractals ..each seemingly separate entities. Yet the "mass" of the ant( area of space occupied as well as shape) may be just a part of the gradually expanding( reflecting) whole system. Thus the ant ( area of space) is actually a small reflection relative to the whole of reflecting atom(s)...space. Thus the ant would represent a smaller dimension as part of a larger more expansive dimension. All micro- dimension along a linear progression represent part of the macro-dimension ..and qualitatively the same..as to shape, energy and quality..at any point along the line ( or curved) measurement.)
    (cont.)........................................... ................ Invisible energy( atomic/light photon..reflector or reflected) expands into visible "mass" through the principles of reflection. When we look at this picture of repeating shapes(look at the universe of space relative to mass) we do not realize that each individual shape ( as mirroring the former and latter) are not really part of each other but are separated by space.( Layering of one reflective 'membrane'.. from the next). The 'mirror effect' creates the illusion that they are attached( or even "bonded/banded together) or sharing the same space.( or part of the same organism). As well: Reflection principles create the illusion that 'they' are gravitized to one another.
    When we see a mass(all mass) as being fractal in nature(component parts, either micro or macro..of a whole system of reflection) we are realizing that a strange mirror effect is occurring. This would mean that all "mass" is actually comprised of millions ( or more) of tiny reflections that when relative to each other form what we perceive as the whole of any given "mass" organism. ( or the whole of any given picture) So long as energy( light) remains relative to reflective planes, and so long as it is reflected from many different angles and over varying distances..light can communicate itself to the shape of anything and the size of anything. This would mean that everything we see is made up of atoms...each atom separated from other atoms...yet when they are relative to each other as well relative to a reflective stratum...they appear to be a whole image to us. Yet they may really be reflections of atoms. Thus.. fractals (of energy and information) gradually accumulate (expand) through the principles of reflection and as such they reflect perpetually. This perpetual reflecting results in perspective masses being represented anywhere along the progression.
    A small photon in this scenario represents VAST amounts of information.When this photon is reflected at myriad points inside the universe(Gray matter=.. reflective planes or aether..?) its information is communicated to reflective 'points' throughout the space of the universe. After this photon( qualitatively..INFORMATION)is reflected to a particular point in space then this point subsequently undergoes an infinite amount of same reflections. This particular "dot" in space(recording the energy and attribute of the photon upon its surface) is also itself relative to other reflective planes( or aether). This process of light photon being perpetually reflected in many different directions and from varying distances results in the 'emergence' of geometries( Emergent "mass"= Light photon.. reflected/refracted?).
    An 'emergent geometry' is perceived as a shape, texture, color and size(etc..) DIFFERENTLY by each perspective, relative observer. ( For instance: The way a bird registers light photon and sound verses the way the human eye and ear does..in their perspective abilities to receive and interpret INFORMATION/SOUND/ENERGY.. from photon).
    If the photon is being reflected in this way ( i,e.. fractually..from many different angles and distances..infinitely) and if the relative observer is not aware of the reflective plane( cannot see it; dwelling within it or upon it) then all the reflections an observer sees ( infinite relativities..and dimensions) are not discerned as distinguishable, rather they appear to be myriad information "dots" accumulated( conglomerated throughout the area of space) to the observer.( where the accumulation of light photon or atom result in the light or atom being expanded... to view) Thus if a relative observer is looking at a part of the night sky and sees many points of light he assumes that they are separate and distinguishable( he cannot discern the exact distance any one star is from another( save the equations and triangulation) ..or how far away one star is as opposed to another). If these "points of light" represent fractals of light and information as REFLECTED to/from may points... then all points of light could actually be reflecting a single point of light. Their position in the sky( closer or farther away), as well as the quality, size and shape of the "dots" can actually be varying degrees of reflection relative to a single photon being reflected many ways and from varying distances. If this were so then both the micro or macro representations of THE single point of light would accurately represent the whole of the information and energy stored in the reflector-photon. Thus we should be able to both hear and see as well as interpret the information of the single photon from any point in space (whether minuscule or colossal). Or: " fractals" could simply be: Magnified or contracted representations ( as to image and sound) ... of light photon that encompass or comprise small or large areas of the universe..as well would necessarily be representative of the whole of the information innate to the reflector photon(s).
    I will attempt to demonstrate these postulates more lucidly ( through illustrations and pictures) as a means of showing that; any entity( animate or inanimate) bears the information of the progenitor photon upon its surface and within its thickness. What we must do is see how the microscopic areas of space expand gradually to macroscopic systems while innately being able to communicate all the information at any point along a linear( or curved) progression. ( Pi, Fib...or REFLECTION.)...................................... ...........................
    ( Note: If one places mirrors in a room this results in the illusion of the expansion of space. As well: A mountain could reflect off of water and appear to be dwelling in the space of the water..though this is equally an illusion. While the image of the mountain exists upon the plane of the waters surface it does not have the qualities and sounds that can be witnessed if one were on the real mountain. Is PI as well as the mathematical patterns discerned in nature actually the very embodiment of the principles and functionalities related to.. reflection?)

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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    What in nature can one discern that would demonstrate that information remains consistent and explanatory( as well demonstrating definitive information associations) no matter what point a relative observer is looking at .. or from what angle or direction( or speed) he sees it from/by? (even though the shape or size may change..the information remains the same). The problem seems to be related to... coming to a better understanding of the principles of: Relativity. If a fractal is actually a "point" that seems to self propagate (simultude..or exactitude.. as to geometry at may points across the whole) as to shape size and quality then this would seem to suggest that at certain points within the whole their is a "mirror imaging" or reflection occurring......................................... ..................................
    ( Note: It is interesting that the Y-Chromosome is referred to as a "hall of mirrors! How so? What are the underlying reasons for this phenomenon? Is this phenomenon evidenced throughout the universe as the key to understanding the affinity between energy and "mass?").
    (cont.)........................................... ....................... The parts of the "organism" that are seemingly fractal(redundant as to shape, pattern or design) in nature and geometry we know are either small or large..yet the same in all ways. Could this be indicating that an atom or group of atoms ARE being reflected to a plane ( or within a universal aether) and 'experiencing' some sort of perpetual reflection from one plane to another ( to another...into infinity)? As is true when one places two mirrored surfaces in parallelism, the image as reflected from one mirror to another first appears large and then gradually reduces to smaller and smaller "fractals" relative to the succession of reflections "back into the mirror(s). As well the images as perpetualized in each perspective mirror will curve proportionate NOT to the weight of the images( they are reflections thus have no mass), rather, proportionate to the degree away from parallelism of one mirror surface as relative to the surface of another mirror. Thus does weight (that which has been theorized to curve or warp space) really have to do with reflective surface as deviating( either little or much) from parallelism to one another. Or: does the warping of space have little to do with "mass"( qualitatively a theory related to weight) and everything to do with reflected planes as either true parallel or altered parallelism? I postulate these things with a purely scientific mindset ( verses any occult connotation) and primarily refer to "principles of reflection" verses any mystic mirror associations. However if one were two place a small tennis ball in between two mirrors that are in parallelism, then the "first" reflection would represent the largest part of an object as 'fracteled.' Subsequently.... ( and interestingly, instantaneously!)(Big Bang= a sudden reflection of light photon and energy at some time in the far distant past).... a strange, perpetual reflectioning occurs, as the original "object tennis ball"( Atom) gradually begins to shrink in gradual succession with each perspective reflection..with every point ( no matter how small or large) within the whole system of reflection(s)) being an exact duplicate of the tennis ball.( Or: Preceding reflection in the succession of reflections) We could technically refer to these individual reflections( of the "same" tennis ball) as representing a continuous stretching of ..distance.... from the surface of the mirror. Each fractal (successive reflection) becomes smaller and smaller(Yet the same image carrying the same volume of information is accurately represented or copied...only contracted..at any point along the line/curved measurement) due to their distance away from the mirrored surface. Are fractals evidence of a reflection phenomenon of atom(s)?
    If the scenario I am explaining(hypothetical) is true then logic would tell us to reverse the processes we see ( and how we understand/interpret them) a complete 180 degree...verticle. ( I will explain this subsequently.)

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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    If information exists on the surface of geometries("mass"...surface) as well through the thickness of geometries, and if the information is consistent no matter what point in space one is observing ( whether a contracted space( i,e..ant) or an expanded area of space(i,e..Galaxy)) then, theoretically, the surface and thickness of a 'duck' will bear the same information that exists relative to the 'human torso' relative to an ant relative to... relative observations of the chromosome. While we may not rationalize any association between the duck or human torso ...intellectually.( much less any associations of these entities with the ant, human chromosome or milky way galaxy) ......it may be that all of these organisms are representative of the SAME volume of.. INFORMATION...information as reflected from the original atom(s).. That same consistent information should be perceived ( as patterns relative to geometry, sound equivalences and other relevancies) upon the surface and through the thickness of all organisms. Is this warped thinking? Not any more warped than the phenomenon that occurs with successive reflections of a thing when reflected from one reflective surface to another. (Note: Not only do the successive copies propagate and shrink they also begin to change to a curved path. So much so that one could conclude if they continued to maintain the curve they would ultimately arrive back to the surface of the mirror. Time travel? ). Does the milky way galaxy also retain the same information as the aforementioned things?
    In other words: If a duck were considered as to surface geometry( shape , size, spatial distancing) as well as to information (received and interpreted by humans relative to sound translated to alphabet)-( that which resulted in humans calling the animal so...for whatever reasons. We will discuss.).. then one should see that a duck is similar(fractal reflection of-) to the human anatomy or that the human anatomy is is in some definitive way associated to the bird itself...( as to patterns in shape and design...as well sound information interpreted by humans using alphabets and relayed also using symbols). A certain part of the human anatomy is linked to this animal ( for profound scientific, geometric, and linguistic reasons) and this 'part' of the human form does appropriate not only the information that exists relative to this shape and design ( as well language implications)( Language as necessarily translating sound to symbol) of the bird ...but the whole of the information that is being communicated from the single photon ( as reflected to myriad points in space ..and either micro-macro... represented).
    'Fractals' may merely be perspective representations( images of...) light photon.As such..fractals have certain dimensions( communicated at every point) as well encompasses a volume of sound(information). The dimensions can be viewed from many different angles and from varying distances. Thus a perspective fractal ( area of space comprising part of what we refer to as a .."mass") may appear like a bird from one angle; yet when it is turned, flipped, inverted etc.. it can also equally be defined as a totally different geometry..seemingly unrelated to the shape or relevance of a bird( but the same as to information).
    What I am postulating is that the photon(s)......( Or perhaps: The original 'single point of light' as 'birthing' the photon(s)).... is a profound thing, that , though very "small", is so superiorly geometric( encompassing upon itself all of the infinite geometries possible... mathematically) that it can become anything (everything) merely by turning itself, reflecting itself from different angles and from infinitely variable distances..as well as being observed from an infinite amount of relative views.
    This is what leads to so much frustration when we try to understand relativity. If the universe is a reflection of "something" that bears an infinity of geometric value( superior)..or if atoms themselves are reflections of this "single point of light" then, themselves equally, infinitely reflected ...then relativity as a fixed or decisive concept could never be comprehended in any resolute way. The variables are literally infinite in a mind boggling way! If photon ( or: Origin="single point of light and inexhaustible energy) is being reflected in this way, then true relativity would be understood only if one could distinguish where this single point of light is and how it is decisively separated from its infinite reflections.( inferior copies/representations). Indeed! One would have to distinguish this point of light as 'separate' from all other points of light that are representatively virtual images of the said: 'Single point of light.' As well if we arrived at this point, in the distinguishing of "origin light" or "origin photon(s) from reflected geometries derivative from such, we would still have to be outside the point of light or photon(s) so as to perceive the whole of the reflector system. So long as we are "part" of the fractal reflections ( thus dwelling therein or upon) we can never assume any relative position so as to agree that we see the same thing in any resolute manner.
    Our ideas with regard to relativity may require a complete about face. In this scenario the only true relativity is to observe the original photon( or single point of light..from origin of universe) as well to be outside looking in on it. This single point of light must be motionless as we move...and we would be required to record its shape, size and quality exactly as it is( at every infinite point). This would require an infinity of time and an infinity of patience. Patience that would remain eternal. This relativity is impossible! However, so long as this point of light( unimaginable) exists and is reflected from an infinity of angles, then the ability to produce new geometries is endless. (Note: It has been theorized that if any mass were to travel at the speed of light then they would assume the weight of the universe. If this is so then logic would say that the whole weight of the universe is on the sturdy shoulder's of this entity we call: Light.Light of course travels at the speed it does thus assumes full responsibility and heaviness of everything. Is "Everything" really invisible space energy? Is there really such as huge chasm separating energy from what we call "mass?" If there were such a separation then we could conclude that the only separation ( inferiority of mass to energy) is the reality that "mass" has no weight and is really only reflections of light. Light would become that which is the true "weighty" entity in the universe and beyond. What an "about face" this would prove to be! However, is it really so difficult to begin taking a fresh approach to the subject of energy and mass. Does our complacent thinking somehow preclude the ability to shift our WHOLE way of seeing, hearing and interpreting information? Our relativity( and relative opinions) do not take precedence over what we know is all around us and obviously superior as to design and functionality.( invisible processes)
    Are Fractals: Small or large reflections of this one entity( LIGHT)? Do fractals represent: Perspective (infinite) reflections of light photon an infinite amount of directions and an infinity of varying distances? As well: Are fractals mere FORMS( representations) of the light photon as viewed from an infinite amount of relative positions? Thus: is "Relativity" a set principle( or LAW) that encourages , in fact dictates, an infinite number of perspectives. Does entropy figure in here as an associative mandate?
    Fractals serve a useful purpose..they allow one to see the 'apparent' reality that there is some sort of anomalous thing happening in nature and the physical universe. Things( everything) seemingly, principley.... mimicking each other... all the way back to that which is being copied, emulated, imitated or reflected. Yet these fractals can be understood if one finds a pattern, not only of design, but as well... information... as communicated through design. I will begin to try to speak on these patterns as observed in nature. I will also try to articulate how these patterns may actually explain if not define( though infinite in application) the SYSTEM as a whole.
    Geometry speaks volumes as to the unique and profound relationship between energy and..."mass."

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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    I believe that a good start in coming to understand things better from a scientific as well inquisitive standpoint has a lot to do with examining the systems devised( or learned) by humans to translate and record information. Though we may never come to understand the functioning of the universe( and ... beyond) we may be able to understand many things better if we realize that as it concerns human kind one of the principle ways that we have come to know what we DO know is closely linked to receiving information via light( Eye) and sound( Ear)..and then subsequently translating those images and sounds..to representative images.( pictures, alphabets) This is predominately a product of human language systems. That is: Language! Is the superior instrument that, as utilized, has endowed mankind with superior intelligence as well the superior means to communicate what they see and hear to equivalent symbols. Thus perhaps this original epiphany ( or acquisition) of the faculty of speech and symbol-making is that which we should also focus our attention on with more ardor. How did humans devise ( or did they acquire it?) a way to appropriately translate... SOUNDS AND LIGHT PHOTON IMAGES? Has the human ability to do so... approximately( yet seemingly, efficiently) actually been that which endowed them with the ability to learn and become educated as to what is happening all around them? ( and further: To inquire)! Do... LANGUAGES...represent that which possesses( perspectively) all the original methodologies and knowledge of times past that resulted in our ability to both hear and see( as well intellectualize) these phenomenon's we call LIGHT AND SOUND more appropriately and accurately? Can the information innate to light and sound( and as interpreted by mankind using alphabets and pictures) be more understood if we retrace the system of translating sounds and images to pictures..that came about long ago? Do languages represent a vast supply of information that has been lying dormant ( forgotten due to time and the evolution of language)..and that if returned to with an ardor could remind us of what we once knew about the universe, the human experience, flora and fauna....or perhaps even a... 'Unified Theory?"
    I am working on explaining what i see fractals as representing. As well i am trying to frame my thoughts in a 3- dim way. I will gradually post these picture designs as the discussion proceeds. I am willing to explain the images more so if they are still ambiguous after viewing them.
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    The images I posted in my first post are designed to broach the subject of information as evident in nature and as patterned throughout all of nature. Again I will ask those who visit to tell me what they think this picture is. I will subsequently demonstrate its relevance to the discussion. This picture would appropriately represent a certain volume of information( a fractal) as found relative to other fractals( fractals as necessarily describing and elaborating upon the fractals that preceded it as well the fractals( infinite) that will and do proceed it.).and as efficient in gradually expanding our understanding of information( how it is communicated, how it is received, how it is interpreted,...what it means.
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    Look at the picture accompanying the next post. I will attempt to illustrate the commentary in this post with a few pictures. This will be the first picture in the series. I will post a picture in one post ..then explain in the proceeding post(s).
     

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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    Picture A.
    This is a picture of a "fractal" tree. Half of the tree is marked "A." The other half is marked "B." Below the tree there is a "frame" highlighted in green as well as another frame highlighted in fuchsia. The tree is now represented as 'depicted' on the surface of an oblate 'circle." This may represent the reflective surface of an atom, or if 3-dim, it may represent the whole area of an atom( reflective surface encompassing a certain 'volume' of space). These two 'frames' are reflecting one to the other. We will call "A" the 'first' reflection in a succession of reflections. "A" is being reflected to "B" at a certain angle and a certain distance. I cannot represent that actually "A" is a full circle as separated from "B" equally a whole circle.( If I 3-dim. it..it will obscure the ability to explain my ..."points.")( However I illustrate this point by placing in each frame a small colored circle..perspectively: Green or fuchsia.) Thus consider each frame( green as well as fuchsia) as representative of both: A half a circle and a whole circle. I am demonstrating that the fuchsia circle is a reflection existing on a plane... that is separated by space... from the "other" reflective plane( Plane B). Yet the tree is being communicated from one reflective 'vector'( plane A) to another reflective vector-( plane B). This demonstrates that A is relative to B and is at a certain relative degree of parallelism( or away from 'true' parallelism). However, since A and B planes are relative to each other, the image of A is transferred to plane B. As well, technically speaking, the image of B is depicted also upon the plane .."A." (However, we have agreed that plane A is the original ( or first) reflection in a series of infinite reflections. Thus B is birthed relative to A..while A is a preceding reflection.. either innate or reflected.. from another plane... before it). We will say, for purposes of illustration, that the "fractal-ing" begins at point B. That is: "A" is communicated to "B" via: Reflection! And that: Relative to an observer: "A" is closer than "B." Thus if this is so ..the tree as represented on plane "A" will appear larger to the observer. The tree as depicted on plane "B" will appear smaller. ( In other words: The distance from the relative observer to plane A is closer than the distance from this same observer to plane B). This is why number 1 ( plane A) is shown to be larger than number 2 (plane B). This illustration is designed to illustrate that as two planes reflect each other( from various angles and distances) not only is the same information communicated to each ( all) vectors in the system, but that a strange contracting of information subsequently ensues(proportionate to the change in distance)... as the "mirror effect" begins to take place. When this begins to occur an anomalous 'shrinking' of the image occurs, while maintaining a consistent ("same") representation of the image in each perspective frame. Thus "A" shrinks to "B" while still representing the same shape and volume of information to plane "B". The next image I will post will begin to show what occurs as this process continues to "unfold."
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    Re: Nature Physic. Information.

    PICTURE B
    These images demonstrate the postulates set forth in the preceding posts. The first picture ( top left) shows the tree. Not shown is the original atom as reflected to this picture. We will say that side A is the original atom and it is first reflected to side B( either reflecting off of another atom or reflecting "itself" onto the surface of a plane (Or: "A" relative to an aether). When "A" is reflected to "B" It is copied (or represented) on another reflective plane thus resulting in it being duplicated, as well it shrinks relative to the 'mirror effect.' ( yet its shape, though smaller... in the succession, is exactly represented on 'plane' B.) This scenario repeats infinitely. A relative observer who is not aware of the mirror effect considers the tree as a whole mass and fails to perceive that the tree is actually comprised of myriad reflections. If this is occurring universally then any mass or area of masses are merely parts of reflections dispersed throughout the space of the universe and viewed from different angles and from varying distances by...human observers. If this were so and a relative observer were looking out in space he may see many reflective points and assume that they are seperate..yet these infinite dots are really multiple reflections of other points of light. You will notice that as I divided the tree into fractions (the former reflection exactly as the latter) what also occurred was a gradual deviation from parallelism that was depicted as a 'gradual curving effect'...
    of each individual fraction(fractaled reflection) in the sucession of reflections.
     
    (Note: A black hole just may be an area of space that lacks these reflective qualities. Or: A black hole may represent an area of space that is not relative to any reflective planes thus cannot reflect light as those planes do( from plane to plane into infinity.) Or: A black hole could be a reflective plain whose reflective surface is perpendicular to the relative view of an earthy observer.
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