[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by subversion I for one can see something of importance that Paul has mentioned. He says that photons have mass, but it is widely accepted that photons do not have mass. Since you are of the mind that photons have no mass, perhaps you can answer this question which should be quite confounding. How can photons be affected by gravity lest they have mass???

Subversion;
In other posts of mine I have stated that the photon is a quantity of energy absorbed or emitted. This quantity of energy can be mathematically converted to "RELATIVE mass" using Einstein's equation. Since the photon is actually a wave, it dose not have "REST mass". When we say "mass", of an entity, it is the rest mass that is being referred to. The rest mass of a photon therefore is ZERO.
This appears to be a difficult aspect of physics for people to grasp. It is probably due to the fact that it is not often taught in high school physics.

REST MASS ENERGY EQUATION
E^2 =p^2 c^2 + m^2 c^4
p is momentum = to the product of mass and velocity.

Einstein simply theorized that radiant energy could not have rest mass and thus the p^2 c^2 part of the rest mass equation goes to zero resulting in E=mc^2.
Even relative mass is affected by gravity. (See Antonio's post)

Those who wish to endeavor into proposing a TOE, I feel should at least have knowledge of the basic physics of current Standard Models. Don't you? It is quite easy to detect how well people do their homework when reading these web sites. A good example of an excellent web site is the one presented by "wisp" on this forum. It is quite obvious he knows physics even though I do not agree with his findings, I do respect his work.

[paul tatham]

I have to apologise to all you folk because my website contains no argument or rationale. It is an extract from my book and contains only my conclusions. Sorry, but without the logic explaining things you are bound to say it is trash.
However I will not change a word of it because I believe it is correct.

A photon of light is two positive particles joined by a wave. The particles travel like bullets. The wave oscillates and is 'space' (or mass, but mass is meaningless). Mass is the ability to produce spacer.

A light wave is no different to the way an electron orbits in an atom. Both are particles joined by a wave. (The electron is joined front and back)

Light does not bend like electrons because the energy is very high in relation to its charge - but it does bend. The particle is a Higgs Boson.

The wave is probably also made of tiny particles or bosons but these are irelevant to the understanding of the universe.

Sorru again for a dumb website
Paul

[Juan R.]

Originally Posted by paul tatham Have a look at my website. http://particles.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk This explains all of the mysteries and suggests that the problem is that scientists have made errors. The errors are discussed. It also discusses the cause of cancer

simply one word on your "four laws of universe":

NON-SENSE.

Please go to School and if after of studying almost everything that is already known for science your continue to sustain that non-sense, please go to Psychiatric.

I simply wait that NOBODY follows your "Cure to cancer". He/she could be seriously damaged by yourirresponsibility.


Perhaps your webpage could be illegal since you are offering medical advices without the corresponding career preparation.


Example from your website:

• For the sun, wear sunglasses for three months and turn lights down low at night.
• For emotional stress, go to a hypnotist and request the stress to be removed and have regular exercise and plenty of sleep...

It sounds too simple to be true but if you ignore all the academic chemical complexities...

Remove the source of energy and the tumour will die
...

Examples,
Never go to brightly lit discos after spending all day on the beach.
...
Never sail without sunglasses when the sea is glistening in the sun.
...
Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s disease is a matter of cutting down on long stressful working hours and getting more exercise.
...
Motor Neurons Disease possibly requires more sunlight through the eyes to reinforce their signal generation.
...
The cure for Leukaemia is the same as for cancer


To play to “solve” quantum gravity from home-physics is one thing (I accept it even knowing that all home-theories that I know are clearly wrong) because the only "damaged" people is the proper "theoretician" who lose his/her time with irrelevant stuff. Most of time one know who is versed and who is a charlatan and therefore one does not waste time reading non-sense.


However, to offer wrong cures affecting people health is not from a charlatan it is from a **** ** **** (in spanish).

[david44]

Originally Posted by dleviwing I am sorry Paul but since you have created your own definitions of physics terms, I find no grounds that we can carry on a discussion. If I were to attempt to teach you physics, you would undoubtedly consider it an insult just as I find your website to be an insult to people who work in the professions of physics. I regret that I am not willing to give up the education that cost so much just to accept your premise that scientist have made so many blunders.

As I recall, I think most of the world said something similar prior to Copernicus, and then again prior to Colombus, and then again prior to the Wright Brothers.

Perhaps what we do not understand, may not be because it is wrong, but because we may not want to see anything different to what we want to see. Perhaps partially learning how to speak a new language will enable us to see things from a different point of view. A new perspective, because let's face it, basic fundamental sciences as we know them today are wrought with many holes. (some of them black).lol

Perhaps you might like to try my language, it does answer all those questions you seemed so sure we will never find an answer for. However, I have written it in a way for non physicists to understand it, but don't hesitate to ask me any questions at all, even in your own scientific language if you have any. My door is always open.

Try looking up The Second Theory of Everything at the following...

http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

I think once you understand it, you will be pleasantly surprised.
good luck.

David

[mkirkpatrick]

David,when you say,"prehaps you would like to try MY Language it does answer
those questions you seem so sure we will never find the answer to"I must admit
I feel a little un-easy,can you re-assure me of a few things that cause this.
Whenyou say My language are you saying in fact thatyou discovered this reality
and that you intend to share it withus?for free!!!Or will we be charged for the
privilige!And do you take personal credit for it?Areyou using this websiteto promote your book?I would be grateful if you could answer these questions.David,you see also I am uneasy about the Claim,not that it is right or
wrong,but more so with you,you see that I have been listening and studying for
over 40 years,and have met some illumined minds in many different countries
I have studied eastern wisdom,and the ancient wisdom.plus esoteric teachings
and occult diciplines,and have sometimes been in awe of happenings,but the
hallmark of the messenger is in his Humility,and absence of Self-and importance
can you re-assure me David that thisis You.

kind regardsmichael.

[david44]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick David,when you say,"prehaps you would like to try MY Language it does answer those questions you seem so sure we will never find the answer to"I must admit I feel a little un-easy,can you re-assure me of a few things that cause this. Whenyou say My language are you saying in fact thatyou discovered this reality and that you intend to share it withus?for free!!!Or will we be charged for the privilige!And do you take personal credit for it?Areyou using this websiteto promote your book?I would be grateful if you could answer these questions.David,you see also I am uneasy about the Claim,not that it is right or wrong,but more so with you,you see that I have been listening and studying for over 40 years,and have met some illumined minds in many different countries I have studied eastern wisdom,and the ancient wisdom.plus esoteric teachings and occult diciplines,and have sometimes been in awe of happenings,but the hallmark of the messenger is in his Humility,and absence of Self-and importance can you re-assure me David that thisis You. kind regardsmichael.

Hi Michael,

I did not in any way mean any disrespect to you. It's just that sometimes it is hard for me to say the words I need to say to get my point across without offending some people unintentionally, I do apologize.

I wanted to say that you are welcome to try to put traditional fundamental basic laws of physics against the knowledge in my website, and I will do my best to help you understand the differences as well as the points that I have found in traditional laws of physics to be assumptions that have been accepted without justification and that they are the reasons most of what we think we know in physics is wrong.

Also, you cannot buy anything on my website. I have given nearly all of my knowledge on The Second Theory of Everything absolutely free of charge to anyone who wants to know. One of the reasons I am doing this is because although I did discover this entire reality of the theory, I cannot take credit for most of the knowledge, because most of the knowledge has come from the reults of a countless number of experiments from a countless number of people from our past and present including myself.

Also you say "but the hallmark of the messenger is in his Humility,and absence of Self-and importance can you re-assure me David that this is You."

I'm sorry to say Michael that this is not me. I would like to get a little bit of recognition for my efforts. Sometimes I think that this is the only reason I did it. However, there is a lot more to my website than just The Second Theory of Everything

I have a much bigger purpose. I want to help mankind get out of the rut.

cheers David

http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

[Guille]

Originally Posted by david44 Hi Michael, I did not in any way mean any disrespect to you. It's just that sometimes it is hard for me to say the words I need to say to get my point across without offending some people unintentionally, I do apologize. I wanted to say that you are welcome to try to put traditional fundamental basic laws of physics against the knowledge in my website, and I will do my best to help you understand the differences as well as the points that I have found in traditional laws of physics to be assumptions that have been accepted without justification and that they are the reasons most of what we think we know in physics is wrong. Also, you cannot buy anything on my website. I have given nearly all of my knowledge on The Second Theory of Everything absolutely free of charge to anyone who wants to know. One of the reasons I am doing this is because although I did discover this entire reality of the theory, I cannot take credit for most of the knowledge, because most of the knowledge has come from the reults of a countless number of experiments from a countless number of people from our past and present including myself. Also you say "but the hallmark of the messenger is in his Humility,and absence of Self-and importance can you re-assure me David that this is You." I'm sorry to say Michael that this is not me. I would like to get a little bit of recognition for my efforts. Sometimes I think that this is the only reason I did it. However, there is a lot more to my website than just The Second Theory of Everything I have a much bigger purpose. I want to help mankind get out of the rut. cheers David http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

David, these are the kind of posts that make us, the ones that have made up most of the posts, and that discuss most, take you in as a crazy person. The claims of the sort "I will lead humanity" dont' give us a reliability idea, they make you loose all the good points you ahde one before. Many do so, many many many, make claims of the kind, and most end up leaving, why, because we stop discussing with them: we don't want to discuss with people that are so irrational. Please don't post again these kind of things, because they make you loose all the respect you had.

[david44]

Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>> David, these are the kind of posts that make us, the ones that have made up most of the posts, and that discuss most, take you in as a crazy person. The claims of the sort "I will lead humanity" dont' give us a reliability idea, they make you loose all the good points you ahde one before. Many do so, many many many, make claims of the kind, and most end up leaving, why, because we stop discussing with them: we don't want to discuss with people that are so irrational. Please don't post again these kind of things, because they make you loose all the respect you had.

Hi Guille,

I don't quite know where you are getting your point from. However, I think that all scientists are doing what they can to improve life for everyone and helping people to get out of the rut, and that is all I'm saying. I truly want to bring out my work in a way that it will help others. And the more others the better.

Still, your point is well taken and I will adhere to the rule.

Thanks for the tip.

David

[dleviwing]

David44;
You state in you very first opening of your web site to ignore scientific procedures and listen to what you have to say.

We have come out of the dark ages into a technological era that requires us to present proof in the form of experimental measure. Unfortunately this creates problems when our view of reality is so distorted by ambiguous interpretations of the numbers is presented by scientifically overzealous authors that present hypotheses as though they are proven facts. You seem to be just another victim of these book salesmen.

Your paradigm of reality needs to be corrected. Though you have recognized the placement of some of the pieces, you have yet to put the puzzle together to see the total picture of reality. The solution may even be simpler than what you think.
Without the science, you only have conjecture.
Best regards;
Dave

PS: Quote history only to those who don't know it. I am quite aware of the misconception of political, academic, and religious temples that define the words of wisdom falsely; just as I recognize your misconceptions.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by david44 Hi Guille, I don't quite know where you are getting your point from. However, I think that all scientists are doing what they can to improve life for everyone and helping people to get out of the rut, and that is all I'm saying. I truly want to bring out my work in a way that it will help others. And the more others the better. Still, your point is well taken and I will adhere to the rule. Thanks for the tip. David

I don't know myself where my post cam from, directly. It's that now where are having a lot of people who are coming in and saying "hey, guess what, all of you are here posting and discussing but I ahve found the truth myself alone and my ego solelly" although not in those words, it is wht they mean by coming and posting their web. History, which you mention so much, has proven us that science advances by communication, by scinetists discussing and sharing ideas, true, the mayor theories are of individuals, but those individuals had to gain all the previosu theories and ideas to develop theirs. I didn't really mean it to you, but it's good so that jsut in case you would do that one day, that you know not to. Now let's come back to the theme of the thread.