The Paradox of Existence

[austintorn@aol.com]

Sounds very sensible, plausible, to me... as I say I am very ignorant and so limited to philosophical speculation xD

Existence has always been, must have, it is the only possible, or at least seemingly possible, explanation of its magnitude, but when I say God, I am referring to a sentient embodiment of energy that may have created the universe in its current state, may exist, may be eternal, may be as powerful and knowing as possible.
Regardless some form of energy created the universe in its current state, as I stated, and it could be the common conception of "God" minus the omnibenevolence that is flawed on the surface. But this conceived being may be eternal, as existence itself is.

If you wait long enough, and there is that time in eternity's waiting room, then even low probability events must come to pass; thus the universe, and other ones.

This is not to say that some highly evolved alien being couldn't do some terra-forming or universe forming, but, again, such beings cannot be First and Fundamental bases.

[Keep Relentless]

But you are noting that outside of existence there is nothing, and this nothing is infinite, and all of these concepts, seemingly logical or not, exist together, I like it x)

[austintorn@aol.com]

I see it, though, as no more an explanation than the physical non-existence of nothingness.
Of course nothing may be an alternate form, and perhaps the nature of existence seems suggestive, but it is definitively no more plausible than existence itself being the only possible state.
Existence, regardless, cannot be explained and therefore nothing can be with certainty, but our awareness and the nature of it.

At least the zero-balance idea has some evidence of confirmation in the observation of how the elementals look like, whereas, the other speculations have none at all. Paradoxes can't be, so, still, something has to give. We just have to be open to find it. Have to use real clues, not just our wishes for how things ought to be or how we desire them to be (have to throw all that out of the window, even if is an expensive stained-glass window).

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Perfect (:

[austintorn@aol.com]

But you are noting that outside of existence there is nothing, and this nothing is infinite, and all of these concepts, seemingly logical or not, exist together, I like it x)

Or else existence is directly a rearranged form of nonexistence. At least 'nothing' qualifies as eternal, infinite, being always and everywhere, so to speak, although it ever turns into stuff (which also goes away), which are the strict requirements for a Prime Mover.

The idea needs more work. Could be that opposite polarity of charge nullifies all of existence (only in the overview, since, practically, 'nothing' cannot be), and/or that matter/antimatter and gravity vs. stuff also contributes.

We are really stuck with the fact that there is nothing to make anything of, but this seeming 'stuckness' may turn out to be the glory of the TOE! We just don't understand how 'nothing', which is a complete absence, could do anything.

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Real clues? Well, would not such a view contain the undeniable premise that existence is, without seeking to "rationalise" it? xD

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Yes or rather an alternate form. But nobody can explain the connection, to my mind existence and non-existence seem entirely independent, so then there must be a middle ground, a concept unknown to us, which unites them and forms everything..?

[austintorn@aol.com]

OK, keep on thinking, relentlessly. Good stuff.

I appreciate people like you who actually get into TOE stuff at the deepest level, which is what this site is really for. The rest of this site seems to just have people outright declaring and pronouncing things such as 'consciousness is all' and other magic things without any real justification. That is just preaching and doesn't do anything but show desires.

I'm going off to work on a movie some more now (The MP's Tales), using iclone, in which one can make scenes come to life in three dimensions, going well past the old 2-D cartoon level. I guess that makes me like kind of a god, creating universes. See 'austintorn' on YouTube.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Real clues? Well, would not such a view contain the undeniable premise that existence is, without seeking to "rationalise" it? xD

Yes, existence trumps essence, totally, in everyday life. We remain curious, though.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Yes or rather an alternate form. But nobody can explain the connection, to my mind existence and non-existence seem entirely independent, so then there must be a middle ground, a concept unknown to us, which unites them and forms everything..?

You and I will find it.

I'll be back eventually.