"How safe is your theory...?"

[humanbydefault]

Not all but many members of this FORUM beleive themselves [with all the reasons of the world] to have or assume to have an answer to some of the infinite interrogants possed by the universe to us. That's great! But for those who have felt such light inside, you would probably identify it with a force that keeps us searching for ways to improve and make it better. I guess there is an Einstein in everyone of us.
The problem I have is that the topic I'm bringing to a general discussion here does not belong to any particular subject of the forum's option. However I think that it is an interesting one... of course I may be wrong [as we all could be in our lives] so I decided to tell you a couple of examples of how any of you may achieve some degree of "safety" with regards to your thoughts and a well deserved credit for having them in your minds.
There is a quote [I don't remember who said it, which is irrelevent by the way] that I found true and at the same time an appropiate "red flag" for those like myself who express his own views with entire openness:
"If you steal from one is plagiarism, if you steal from many is research." So, when I had those revelations about the same things I have written often in this FORUM, I've had that quote present always in my mind for a long time even before I decided to write my theory.
I decided to write all my views in an extract [which I did] and find an attorney who could help me to file those papers in a safe place for unlimited time. So I did it in an official meeting with a second attorney in law as a witness. Then I decided to write all my theories in a book of fiction since I wasn't looking for legal problems of any sort with a very "indoctrinated" community of physicists. After that, I began to write articles after articles about the same issues and subjects I self-published in my book (the same protected in a file of an attorney friend of mine). My next step was to spread it throughout a numerous group of physicists around the world. Someone once said that "if you want to keep something safe, you better put it in a public place where every one could see it." So! Every single detail of my ideas and concepts are also here in the forum, in a place that you as well as the rest of the world could [if they please] get in contact with.
One thing though! If you are sure about your ideas and points of views: Never get desperate or lose your patience! Things will turn out the way you expected at the end... IF you were right.
I'd like to hear what you think about this issue. Do you have a theory considered by you to be safe? Is it safe enough as it is now?
Remember that ideas and concepts ARE NOT PATENTABLE. You can not file patents protecting concepts and theories. But you could copyright them and "protect the date of the authorship of the work." It is sad that after all the effort anyone may do, some guy may still come up and proclaim his "rights" over your work. I'm ready to start any legal procedure at any time not to mention my attorney. It's my plan to keep writing here and every where [with peace of mind] with the aim of spreading a vision alrready safe and protected by people who make their living [a good one I may ad] helping you to protect your rights at any moment notes.

Tell me your story or your opinion about this issue if you feel like.
HUMANBYDEFAULT
www.humanbydefault.com

*One last note: Copyrights do not protect theories either, but a signature of the library of congress seems to have some legal weight in a potential dispute between two claimers... Don't you agree?

[mkirkpatrick]

Good thread H.B.D. you made some good points,I have had many theories occur
to me over the years,some I thought were wonderful,and wouldbring about world
change and I would most likely recieve a knight-hood from the Queen,they were
the times when I think that my ego was rather inflated!Now with this forum I think that we can all share our ideas and theories,and that they will belong to us
all,this I think is the way it should be,sharing with one another and helping one
another to grow in understanding and knowledge.So to answer the question you
posed how safe is my theory,the reply is totally Unsafe,and thats the way I like It.


kind regards michael.

[TinyTree]

The problem I have is that the topic I'm bringing to a general discussion here does not belong to any particular subject of the forum's option. However I think that it is an interesting one... of course I may be wrong [as we all could be in our lives] so I decided to tell you a couple of examples of how any of you may achieve some degree of "safety" with regards to your thoughts and a well deserved credit for having them in your minds.

At one point, when I was working on my theory, I thought it would be my PhD dissertation and my ticket to an academic career. I was not even interested in necessarily applying the concepts to the entire universe- just to a subset of mathematical objects. However, perhaps due to my poor communication skills, or the lack of interest of my advisors, they shot the idea down (and similarly, refereed journals kicked it around like a hot potato or rejected it with fairly lame reasons). Therefore, at that point in time it ceased being an avenue towards economic success.

Having a name attached to a theory may be very grand- but what does it gain you? It would help you in seeking a companion perhaps, or in an academic career if you are pursuing that path, but beyond that it is merely serving your ego. The only exception to this is if you were awarded some "genius grant" or something by some wealthy benefactor- but I doubt that such a thing would be available for a controversial theorist for many decades (while the idea got hammered on in scientific circles for decades before gaining any sort of nominal acceptance).

If you read Thomas Kuhn's "The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions" (I recommend it highly) you will see that a major paradigm shift does not come rapidly- it can take- literally- generations of time (while the old guard die off holding onto their old conception of reality). Therefore, your idea really, if it is really big, probably will have no impact on the nature of general scientific thought for 20 to 50 years- because no one will really understand it for that amount of time.

Look at Darwinism- it is still struggling as a theory after 150 years in many domains of thought. It did not help Darwin in the least in his real career he wrote it late after having a long successful biology career. If you look at Benjamin Franklin- he did not develop his theories until he was already retired early (at 42) due to investments and the theories really only helped him in his political career- not his scientific career. Many of the great innovators of scientific theory really gained nothing from having their name attached to the theory except that they are remembered later, incorrectly. Einstein did benefit- but only because he had "scientific benefactors" who pushed him into success rapidly- a few other physicists with real clout and his theories could have languished like Darwins for a long time.

Do you know who sailed from Spain to "discover" America? It was not Cristopher Columbus. It was Cristobal Colón (the name he called himself in Spain, where he left). It was anglicized.

For my own theory- I have posted it throughout the web- anonymously- hoping someone else would pick it up and run with it over the past years. No one has as of yet, (that I am aware of anyway). So I am reviving it here again in person (and planning on putting it together as a book if I can keep the resolve together). I would hope that if it gained some acceptance (even among a small community) it might sell a few copies to buy some dinners out or something.

Anyway, Human by Default, I'd be interested in seeing your book of fiction, or a pointer to a website which defines your theory. I've posted mine in minimalist form here in this forum.

I'll make you a deal- if you provide input on my theory, I'll provide input on yours.

In any event, there is apparently some physics database which can be used to submit theoretical ideas to and this can serve as a "first witness" for your idea if you care to submit it there. Unfortunately, the name escapes me at the moment.

But I would think that publically posting your ideas would pretty much affirm you as the creator of the idea- after all there is a public record of it.

[mkirkpatrick]

My theory is that spirals are the signature of mind-full-intent,and as I am
posting it out into cyberspace I guess it will not be too safe!My theory is that
we are in an infinite ocean of energies that all appear to be septenary and rotate,a spiral within a spiral out into infinitum,and that if we can read the message or Code within the vortex,it will reveal the presence of mind,the exchange medium between one level and another,one dimension to another is
entrusted to the humble Vortex!the most amazing thing about these fellows is that they can be any size,they are so to speak-infinitely-adept-able?anything
from the sub-atomic level to the size of several suns,they are so depend-able
I really do care for the vortex,I should my life may depend on it one day!



kind regards michael.

[subversion]

this is a really good topic I think. While I'm not exactly open to giving my ideas away for someone else’s credit, I do believe that information should be free, and that it wants to be free. I think that people should get credit for what they discover, especially in the case of the TOE, for multiple reasons. Not the only reason we should give accreditation to the TOE discoverer, but perhaps the most important, is the fact that the discoverer of the TOE is vitally important to the TOE itself. This is because the person who discovers the TOE will know it perhaps more intimately than anyone; he is the Shepard of the theory, and he assumes a special place in it. He will know it's implications and ramifications, it's importance and the importance of respecting it and using it wisely. If the TOE gets into the wrong hands, the hands of the greedy and the hands of the idle, it will not help humanity at all, but will make things even worse, much worse. For this reason we can learn more from the person who discovers the TOE, than we actually can from the TOE itself. Thus, we should hold the discoverer of the TOE in great esteem, for if we do then and only then will he have the power to lead us (to salvation).

For the sake of the future and our fortune in it, I think acknowledging the person who discovers the TOE for what he is, whatever that may be, is perhaps the most crucial thing we can do as an intelligent species.

That having been said, I think the best, and possibly only choice for the TOE discover is to bestow his trust, that humanity should have the virtue of acknowledging his knowledge given to them as a wonderous gift, and not try to steal his idea for personal gain. The discoverer of the TOE is not egotistical, but he knows the vitality of his role among humans, his position in the universe.



I do claim to be this person, and I have feared for the secrecy of my theory until I feel the proper time to let it out. The main thing determining this decision of when/how to let it out is the fact that, as I have explained why above, I must receive credit, so that I can fullfill my duty. It is a very hard call to make, how, when, and even if to release the TOE, a call made more difficult by the buearacracy and exclusivity of the high-society scientific community, which has estranged itself from the real human being, who is who will discover the TOE, who is not someone rich, not someone well connected, not even someone who has food all the time or isn’t locked up in jail for some ridiculous excuse of a reason. You see, my path to discovery has been a bumpy road. I was born in a middle class family, in a small town, I did well in highschool, until my senior year, I made a 30 on my ACT (though I could’ve done better, I was top %99 in math), I got a scholarship to Tulane university, subsequently I lost my scholarship, transferred, started to develop my theory almost by luck, got thrown in jail unjustly, was released but had to continue escaping persecution, lived life as a fugitive, a wanted man, wound up homeless, was disowned by my parents, finally wound up back in college, and now that’s where I am, flunking all my classes, except astrophysics, because they seem unimportant to me, and I am disenchanted with my major, for now that I know for sure the TOE everything else that is nonessential to the theory seems, how should I say it, trivialized, and now I'm a wanted man again. Yet all those things I trivialize, like being a "free" citizen within a disagreeable set of rules in a state that is really un-free, like being a straight A student in an institution which cares more about credits than knowledge, are the things that would make me acceptable to the scientific community, whether or not I have a great mind or have discovered whatever theory. So you can see, despite the concreteness of what I have discovered, I am in no kind of position to be considered well respected or reputable by the mainstream scientific community. This doesn’t mean people won’t accept my theory when they realize it is right, but they, due to their prestige, will be much more prone to try and steal it. And the government continues to persecute me, the one person who can end such persecution by means of enlightenment. The world is so self-defeating, but that is not the final answer, I'm resolved to think.




So I’m kind of between a rock and a hard spot. I’ve been contemplating writing my theory into a paper and sending it to a journal, but I don’t trust the people who referee the journals, and I’d much rather just tell you all about my theory right now!! That seems like much more fun to me! I’d also like to write a book, but I’m caught in the middle of all these other obligations like classes, etc., plus the fear of being thrown in jail. I want to trust people, but I don’t know if that's a naieve thing to do. What should I do!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I'll be lucky if my wreckless behavior and my indignation for the government and the aristocracy doesn't mean I go out in a blaze of glory before I ever get a chance to share my theory. Ya'll will be lucky too, as well as generations to come. So please, give me some advice.

[mkirkpatrick]

I rather enjoy theories,here is another one of mine!We all know the speed of light,do we not,But What if what we percieve to be lights Only speed,is really its
slowest,and that light can as does proceed along until it is equal maybe to the
speed of thought!I believe Dave said in an earlier post that the speed of light had been broken!Light has a vibrational quality about it,that can be increased
to as yet unknown levels,sound waves are light at a much lower level,the more
that light is excited the greater the trill-becomes until with enough exicitement
it can become What!Maybe-all-present-or ominipresent,above the normal accepted speed of light we would have great difficulty in tracking it.



kind regards michael.